tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post115636041362421138..comments2024-03-25T02:33:41.590-05:00Comments on FemaleScienceProfessor: Credit CheckFemale Science Professorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-46043293550388603512012-08-10T11:28:49.038-05:002012-08-10T11:28:49.038-05:00Dear Female Science Professor,
I am so grateful f...Dear Female Science Professor,<br /><br />I am so grateful for the random events that led me to your blog a few days ago. I've been reading your posts during some idle moments, and as a female postdoc in science (who looks like a 16-year-old girl and is married to another scientist from the same field) I am relating to them totally. I am so happy to know that others are struggling with exactly the same confidence issues.<br /><br />I also get asked for help a lot, but I guess even though I am quite nice to people, at some point they always realize that I am not the kind of person who they would like to make angry, so people are actually quite afraid of me sometimes. I expect a lot from myself and from other people. This way I also get my name in many papers, as I DO get the credit for my work. The only problem I am now struggling with, is that I don't know what topic science I want to pursue after my five years of postdoc. I dream of staying in science and doing something great, but I don't see it happening if I don't find a way to increase my creativity and find a topic that truly interests me and is also useful.<br /><br />In any case, your blog is a huge inspiration to me. Thank you so much and greetings from Germany.<br /><br />You don't need to publish this comment. I just wanted you to give you my support.Tutkimusmatkailijatarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03700062573305172852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-1157853073534649002006-09-09T20:51:00.000-05:002006-09-09T20:51:00.000-05:00See my recent posts on the 'little birdie effect' ...See my recent posts on the 'little birdie effect' and helping people, as they're quite relevant to this topic. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I'm quite flattered if people take my advice at all, and I get to see my ideas incorporated into their projects. I get a little joy out of that by itself. <BR/><BR/>But usually when that happens, they acknowledge my help, at least a little. I might get a passing mention in a thesis defense, but not necessarily an acknowledgment in the paper (I'm waiting to see on the most recent ones where the papers haven't been accepted yet). Does anybody notice - either way- other than me? I doubt it. <BR/><BR/>I agree that it's a Mom Effect- it's like doing the laundry. They don't want to do it themselves, and might not have- let's be honest here- if you hadn't done it for them. They'd be content to sit around in stinky clothes!<BR/><BR/>My advice: <B>Be scarier!</B> I've noticed that some students who've seen me on a bad day are more afraid of pissing me off, so they're more likely to make sure that <I>I know</I> that <I>they know</I> that <I>I helped them. </I><BR/><BR/>Which is just fine by me. No sense in being TOO nice!<BR/><BR/>It's fine to be a big friendly pussycat. Just remind them, once in a while, that you have teeth. <BR/><BR/>re: Ethics courses, most universities with NIH funding have them, because NIH requires them for fellows and trainees on certain types of grants. They usually include at least one section on authorship and credit issues.Ms.PhDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11050354864577547294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-1157346892962893342006-09-04T00:14:00.000-05:002006-09-04T00:14:00.000-05:00Many students will realise the true value of teach...Many students will realise the true value of teachers and guides only after some delay.But surely they will realise and acknowledge at some point of time.<BR/>-VM (physicsplus.blogspot.com)MVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05910408858112321196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-1156646280757795792006-08-26T21:38:00.000-05:002006-08-26T21:38:00.000-05:00Really? I would definitely campaign for the approp...Really? I would definitely campaign for the appropriate credit (in a friendly way). This kind of thing makes me VERY, VERY resentful. Maybe that will wear off when I become more senior?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-1156514007878104592006-08-25T08:53:00.000-05:002006-08-25T08:53:00.000-05:00The culture of my department is all about taking a...The culture of my department is all about taking as much credit, even if it is undeserved. I've watched faculty present work (95% of which I did) AS THEIR OWN without any mention of my name. I can't say they are sexist pigs, because I've seen them do it to their male students as well.<BR/><BR/>I've watched graduate students do what you mention. I wonder if it's not just sexism, but some kind of confused understanding that to be successful in academia, you always have to appear brilliant, even if that means stealing. <BR/><BR/>Does anyone know of a "Ethics in Research" course? I wonder at my own department for not having one.FemaleCSGradStudenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17081709607565950878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-1156414402978275852006-08-24T05:13:00.000-05:002006-08-24T05:13:00.000-05:00It might be the fact you're efficient: I'm a mothe...It might be the fact you're efficient: I'm a mother of young children, and I whine loudly about not having enough time for everything and being tired (I _am_ tired).<BR/>All through my career I have always gotten ample acknowledgement, in words and writing.<BR/>Maybe I'm lucky, or maybe mathematicians are better at this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-1156396230559109692006-08-24T00:10:00.000-05:002006-08-24T00:10:00.000-05:00I have had that same thing happen over and over ag...I have had that same thing happen over and over again. My "favorite" thing is when I am in a meeting and I suggest something which is ignored and 2 minutes later some guy will repeat what I said (sometimes they will even say "like X said a minute ago") and they get the credit!!!<BR/><BR/>I think it is partly the maternal thing, but I don't really understand why my help is considered less valuable--I never will...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com