tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post3448029877406587605..comments2024-03-25T02:33:41.590-05:00Comments on FemaleScienceProfessor: He Said/She CrowedFemale Science Professorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-13473840577681584332011-05-08T02:55:38.890-05:002011-05-08T02:55:38.890-05:00it wouldn't surprise me if the woman whoom the...it wouldn't surprise me if the woman whoom the speaker said "crowed" about her work, really did "crow" about it - that's because women in science tend to be dismissed by the male majority so in order to be heard they *have* to be more outspoken and aggressive, perhaps even more so than men. Unfortunately this means that when they do eventually get heard, they are said to be "crowing." another catch-22Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-39078787421438657162011-05-04T10:38:12.882-05:002011-05-04T10:38:12.882-05:00I knew there'd be *one* comment suggesting it ...I knew there'd be *one* comment suggesting it wasn't bias (or that an offhand comment of bias in the other direction exists, which by the way does not negate this situation). Still, 11 comments in? Sad.FrauTechhttp://frautech.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-83209322712720164002011-05-03T23:07:05.246-05:002011-05-03T23:07:05.246-05:00Somehow it seems like a different situation if it ...Somehow it seems like a different situation if it is an offhand comment in a talk by anyone (male or female) as opposed to a systematic disparaging of women and praising of men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-47626932805284597322011-05-03T17:46:37.204-05:002011-05-03T17:46:37.204-05:00I once sat in a talk where a female scientist said...I once sat in a talk where a female scientist said<br /><br />"X (Male) is a scientist (insert field specific adjective)<br />at University of Z who apparently has time to find these..." <br /><br />Now, if the genders were reversed and FSP was in the audience, I am sure it would be on this blog as an obvious case of sexism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-13463646683750848212011-05-03T16:50:08.254-05:002011-05-03T16:50:08.254-05:00This is a really interesting post. I will be liste...This is a really interesting post. I will be listening to future talks with my critical thinking around gender and sexism switched on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-52893528112063412562011-05-03T15:32:38.679-05:002011-05-03T15:32:38.679-05:00Those highly educated men blather with such enviab...Those highly educated men blather with such enviable and unsurpassed talent! I think I might prefer the lout on the couch who shouts, "bring me a cold one, Louise."...(not really!)<br /><br />Thanks, I enjoy your blog!Two Wordyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05641348990910242896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-29855237023573039362011-05-03T13:20:15.250-05:002011-05-03T13:20:15.250-05:00I don't know why I wrote "coals".. e...I don't know why I wrote "coals".. eggshells makes much more sense. Strange.Female Science Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-5095444155477623862011-05-03T13:18:19.060-05:002011-05-03T13:18:19.060-05:00The men were probably burping.The men were probably burping.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-30097986585031361302011-05-03T12:34:14.817-05:002011-05-03T12:34:14.817-05:00Obviously, if the woman was crowing, the men were ...Obviously, if the woman was crowing, the men were cockle-doodle-doo-ing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-14816308454746682452011-05-03T12:26:59.626-05:002011-05-03T12:26:59.626-05:00The idea that refraining from sexist editorializin...The idea that refraining from sexist editorializing in a professional setting can be equated to "walking on coals" (or eggshells, more likely) makes me feel all stabby.Notorious Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-60499285931054993022011-05-03T08:54:07.786-05:002011-05-03T08:54:07.786-05:00wow... I have never heard anyone be that unprofes...wow... I have never heard anyone be that unprofessional in a talk. That's shocking. Usually people are veeeery careful not to denigrate people who they hate/think are terrible scientists - much more careful than when talking about friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-70142103418640437572011-05-03T08:10:02.089-05:002011-05-03T08:10:02.089-05:00Thanks for the Tuesday morning (borderline hysteri...Thanks for the Tuesday morning (borderline hysterical) giggles, FSP. I needed them before all the croaking I have to do today.<br /><br />BTW, I think that you have the wrong citation there. I thought it was Joe Schmo(Science, 2009), not Bob Schmo (2010), your old student, who proposed X.Jennynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-31408273752991164152011-05-03T06:35:39.386-05:002011-05-03T06:35:39.386-05:00"Crowing? What did that mean? And if a woman ..."Crowing? What did that mean? And if a woman was crowing, what were the men doing?"<br /><br />Squawking?<br /><br />What an idiot. Who uses text-only slides anyway, I would've left at that point.Namneziahttp://scientopia.org/blogs/bridgeblog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-13193664329939134102011-05-03T04:45:30.657-05:002011-05-03T04:45:30.657-05:00...though it may be worthwhile for idiots to out t......though it may be worthwhile for idiots to out themselves. <br /><br />Had he been more subtle, you might not have noticed that he was systematically denigrating women, and that his ideas should therefore be dismissed as being based on faulty, wholly unscientific assumptions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com