tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post3705984710675054786..comments2024-03-25T02:33:41.590-05:00Comments on FemaleScienceProfessor: An Open Letter to the Math GuyFemale Science Professorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-36554813803185915882011-05-14T16:29:59.345-05:002011-05-14T16:29:59.345-05:00Speaking of Math:
http://ilaba.wordpress.com/2011...Speaking of Math:<br /><br />http://ilaba.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/why-im-not-on-mathoverflow/<br /><br />About severe gender imbalance in a math forum and indifference to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-39008604143127823452011-05-04T14:43:08.413-05:002011-05-04T14:43:08.413-05:00Maybe you are just intimidated, since you probably...Maybe you are just intimidated, since you probably got your job based on affirmative action or whatever, and you probably can't do math at a really high level.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-44969301247400916522011-04-27T22:11:45.238-05:002011-04-27T22:11:45.238-05:00Oo, do we get to talk about our nano problems now?...Oo, do we get to talk about our nano problems now?<br /><br />1) Loud chewers. My building doesn't really have any common/lounge space for grad students to eat, and the weather outside sucks 90% of the time, so most of us eat our packed lunches at our desks. Several of my officemates are clearly open-mouthed chewers who will spend 30+ minutes loudly smacking, slurping, and crunching. It's irrational but I find it extremely annoying.<br /><br />2) Leg jigglers. Do they not realize that, at seminars, they are jiggling the entire row of seats and not just their own leg?Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02995501660275425349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-40380180992512892372011-04-25T12:19:07.827-05:002011-04-25T12:19:07.827-05:00At my old school, they had water and window wipers...At my old school, they had water and window wipers in each classroom (they type they have in gasstations). At least the blackboards were really clean, and no dust was flying around.Bavariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-54082048026847074702011-04-25T11:41:13.005-05:002011-04-25T11:41:13.005-05:00Why hasn't anyone thought to invent an automat...Why hasn't anyone thought to invent an automatic self-wiping chalkboard similar to those high-tech self-flushing toilets ("SURPRISE!" every time)? I mean if we could put a man (or two) on the moon ....GPhttp://padmaganesh.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-72516296718652305512011-04-25T01:04:26.482-05:002011-04-25T01:04:26.482-05:00What bothers me is that this kind of behavior is i...What bothers me is that this kind of behavior is immediately seen as rude. There could be other reasons, such as a simple lack of time. And what happened to simply asking? <br /><br />I always get tons of questions in the 10 minutes between my class and the next, so I could either take my time addressing the students properly, or do a half-hearted job while I erase the next prof's blackboards. When said prof is standing around doing nothing and looking bored, I have absolutely no qualms leaving the boards covered in chalk and talking to my students instead.<br /><br />I generally find it more important to be out of the classroom by the time the next lecture starts, and if that means I can't get to the blackboards, so be it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-53777133718751130172011-04-24T21:48:28.004-05:002011-04-24T21:48:28.004-05:00That would be fine, but not as easy to say as Math...That would be fine, but not as easy to say as Math Guy. Bio Chick would probably be better than Biogal IMHO. I just asked a friend and she said she'd rather be a Bio Wench. Similarly, Bio Guy doesn't sound right, but how about Bio Man? <br /><br />Sexism does largely go in one direction, actually. Not entirely, but there's no evidence for the reverse in anything you've mentioned.leyleknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-9236156559386092762011-04-24T21:10:10.613-05:002011-04-24T21:10:10.613-05:00@leylek
Really? What if "MSP" had writt...@leylek<br /><br />Really? What if "MSP" had written this post complaining about "Biogal"? <br /><br />The underlying assumption is that sexism exists in one direction only...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-37736789720707122102011-04-24T20:35:45.888-05:002011-04-24T20:35:45.888-05:00I'm glad FSP didn't specify in the post th...I'm glad FSP didn't specify in the post that the Math Guy is a grad student. In fact, it was respectful not to mention it because it removed from discussion the possibility that she, a professor, expected the math guy to erase the board for her <b>because</b> he was a grad student.leyleknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-28543095970295154212011-04-24T20:34:02.612-05:002011-04-24T20:34:02.612-05:00Anonymous, I don't think you were being sarcas...Anonymous, I don't think you were being sarcastic. I think you were just being mean.<br /><br />I think you are also confusing FSP with some of her commenters and with the "deranged" Ms. PhD. If you reread the recent post about titles, you'll see that the point is that she doesn't think women should be called "Mrs" in professional meetings if the men are being addressed by their names or academic titles. She even says she is OK with Mrs if the men are called Mr. All of that just makes so much sense to me, it blows me away that anyone could think that was unreasonable and proof of sexism against men. yes I know, you're a troll and we're not supposed to feed the trolls because they are beyond reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-49946722023196436642011-04-24T16:52:57.091-05:002011-04-24T16:52:57.091-05:00@Anon at 7:34
Your inability to recognise sarcasm...@Anon at 7:34<br /><br />Your inability to recognise sarcasm is amazing.<br /><br />My comment was directed at FSP and female academics like her, who seemed overly obsessed with titles. Some of her commenters go nuts over someone not calling them "doctor". I am, frankly, embarrassed if someone calls me Dr. or Professor. Most of us "scientists" on this board are mere flies... we know that. Our research will probably ...suck ass. <br /><br />I thought someone like FSP who talks so much about titles should have given an explanation before using the term "math guy", but thats what happens when you believe sexism can only exist in one direction. <br /><br />As for the truly deranged types like Ms. PhD, I think she should apply to UCLA once Sandra Harding retires. Her math skills are best described as "slightly below high school junior level" and a career slamming Newton's calculus as being sexist (and rape inspiring) may be perfect for her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-45654440982927173452011-04-24T13:17:59.924-05:002011-04-24T13:17:59.924-05:00I think this is a gendered problem. Men have troub...I think this is a gendered problem. Men have trouble remembering what we tell them. Telling him in writing will help, according to cognitive science studies that claim men learn better by reading than by listening. I like the suggestion to leave him a nice note. Maybe accompany it with some brownies. A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down! The time after that, send him a nice email. Expect to have to keep nagging him.Ms.PhDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06542602867472447035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-18135498759730730842011-04-23T18:54:32.057-05:002011-04-23T18:54:32.057-05:00Time for a passive-aggressive note FSP! Not email-...Time for a passive-aggressive note FSP! Not email-- make a sign or two--hand one at the front of the room and one right at eye level pasted near the door for math dude to see on the way out. Make it delightfully annoying-- "Don't forget to erase boards before leaving! Thx!"cackleofradnesshttp://cackleofradness.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-72832218148822827832011-04-23T13:38:13.967-05:002011-04-23T13:38:13.967-05:00do you have a grad student teaching assistant? On...do you have a grad student teaching assistant? One of mine gets assigned the job of erasing the board before AND after class. This idea that you leave your writing up after class to prove you have nothing to hide sounds really insecure show offy to me. These math guys just want you to be imprssed with their equations, as if it says something about thhe size of their private parts...inBetweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17212548401525577878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-40203240674675661812011-04-23T12:20:04.478-05:002011-04-23T12:20:04.478-05:00I can't believe how many people here think it&...I can't believe how many people here think it's acceptable to leave their board for others to clean up! At every university where I've taught, the norm has been to clean up after yourself. It just seems rude not to. You made the mess, you clean it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-53888585036392420472011-04-23T08:26:41.305-05:002011-04-23T08:26:41.305-05:001)I don't think it is unreasonable to pick up ...1)I don't think it is unreasonable to pick up after ones' self.<br /><br />2)This debate reminds me of how do you leave the toilet seat when you have finished your business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-37815665725894981962011-04-23T01:53:03.825-05:002011-04-23T01:53:03.825-05:00FSP, do you only fill the boards up once? I erase ...FSP, do you only fill the boards up once? I erase many times during the course of a (math) lecture, so I find it weird that it bothers you to get chalk on yourself at the beginning. For me, even if I didn't get all chalky right before my lecture, it would only be a short delay. (I have the bad habit of forgetting not to wear black on teaching days, but that is another story.)<br /><br />Anyway, I am used to erasing at the beginning of class and not the end. I would think someone was fairly eccentric if they went to the trouble of asking me to erase at the end, but I would probably do it. (Well, I'd inevitably forget some of the time.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18148732374072288976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-61125520143200435062011-04-22T21:45:15.460-05:002011-04-22T21:45:15.460-05:00I had this problem (it was a grad student teaching...I had this problem (it was a grad student teaching the first half of a course for his supervisor). After grousing about this for a couple of weeks, I went to visit him in his office. I said I followed him in the classroom and had a request - to which he immediately said "You want me to erase the board". Yup. And he did after that. But it just shows that he really knew he should have been doing it in the first place. --- Another FSPAegerinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-14530370838762049202011-04-22T20:42:06.223-05:002011-04-22T20:42:06.223-05:00My nano complaint is that one of the lectures that...My nano complaint is that one of the lectures that is held in the classroom across the hall from my office involves a LOT of noise. One day it was screaming and yelling (a movie I hope!) and others it involves loud music. I find it very distracting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-86804182066542371202011-04-22T19:49:22.069-05:002011-04-22T19:49:22.069-05:00I had this problem last semester and after the fir...I had this problem last semester and after the first couple of times, (interestingly, it was a math guy as well. Is this a common affliction for them?), found out the prof's from the university class schedule and emailed him about it. I received an apology pronto and the board was always clean after that.jbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-86227028691597240642011-04-22T19:34:53.993-05:002011-04-22T19:34:53.993-05:00Sincere, curiosity-based question for Anon 7:08 -
...Sincere, curiosity-based question for Anon 7:08 -<br /><br />Were you similarly outraged when FSP was called "Mrs" at a professional conference by people who knew that she was a professor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-91102603039690081842011-04-22T19:24:34.296-05:002011-04-22T19:24:34.296-05:00It's possible, but since the person in questio...It's possible, but since the person in question is a grad student, I thought I'd call him "Math Guy" instead of "Math Grad Student".Female Science Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-9302889046677554132011-04-22T19:08:30.176-05:002011-04-22T19:08:30.176-05:00WTF? FSP seems to talk about a male colleague simp...WTF? FSP seems to talk about a male colleague simply as "Math Guy" while she reminds everyone that she is Female Science "PROFESSOR". <br /><br />So you think male faculty should be called "guys", but women faculty should be called "professor".<br /><br />Is it possible you are being sexist here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-31553331280623848912011-04-22T17:10:59.427-05:002011-04-22T17:10:59.427-05:00After thinking about this further, it is at least ...After thinking about this further, it is at least a milli problem. Nano is too small to be accurate.Pagan Topologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01611788563582362688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-6172690987159898392011-04-22T14:21:46.113-05:002011-04-22T14:21:46.113-05:00This isn't an academic nano-problem, but I wis...This isn't an academic nano-problem, but I wish there were a law that anyone who sends an e-mail announcing that a person has won a million dollars or pounds or euros or whatever has to pay up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com