tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post5037894633723326402..comments2024-03-14T04:53:49.513-05:00Comments on FemaleScienceProfessor: FSP's Guide to Academic EtiquetteFemale Science Professorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-57299036155310809212008-10-02T17:09:00.000-05:002008-10-02T17:09:00.000-05:00i read this a while ago, and it still stuck with m...i read this a while ago, and it still stuck with me... i really wish some people would follow this more rigorously... the lack of professionalism sometimes is astonishing. i have now twice received comments from reviewers that are rude, obnoxious and mis-informed (over the past year!). i know people are busy, but perhaps they should take time to research ideas they are not familiar with before knocking them. so for me - #12 needs to be stressed more frequently!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-46516701981260867732008-08-19T11:21:00.000-05:002008-08-19T11:21:00.000-05:00I've always found information like this helpful in...I've always found information like this helpful in my academic career and this post is a great example. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-68640183455125702082008-08-18T08:02:00.000-05:002008-08-18T08:02:00.000-05:00I second the suggestion of a book! Extremely enter...I second the suggestion of a book! <BR/><BR/>Extremely entertaining - but pointed list... now I'm off to find out about the pinching incident.<BR/><BR/>I'm just starting grad school next month ...in English though, nothing scientific :) Looking forward to it...will be interesting going from being a prof to being 'just' a TA, I think.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://flittingonfiction.today.com/" REL="nofollow">flitting On Fiction</A>flithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056869961983693466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-32798649212270836792008-08-17T16:37:00.000-05:002008-08-17T16:37:00.000-05:00Excellent ideas. Tweak the wording a little, and ...Excellent ideas. Tweak the wording a little, and you have a guide to Behaving Like a Grown-Up.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04464270470910036644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-68253602460391301612008-08-16T16:24:00.000-05:002008-08-16T16:24:00.000-05:00Some additions to the "no pinching rule" (you bett...Some additions to the "no pinching rule" (you better believe this is true; FSP is not the only female to experience this sort of nonsense) <BR/><BR/>1) "no blocking of pathways" rule <BR/><BR/>2) "no threatening to ruin a female scientist's career rule because she makes it clear she considers you creepy" rule <BR/><BR/>3) "no getting drunk and rating the three women at the conference based on looks" ruleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-37538437210212197102008-08-15T16:27:00.000-05:002008-08-15T16:27:00.000-05:00Well, when I was a postgrad I did what I felt like...Well, when I was a postgrad I did what I felt like, not because I had a scholarship, but because I think there is something very seriously wrong with introducing people to research by making them work on your ideas. I knew what I wanted to work on, and that's what my thesis was on.Keahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05652514294703722285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-81355711262605829592008-08-15T12:37:00.000-05:002008-08-15T12:37:00.000-05:00Shorter version of why I'm at a PUI:I don't want t...Shorter version of why I'm at a PUI:<BR/><BR/>I don't want to be responsible for getting money to support the grad student that FSP just described.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-30524041875189192952008-08-15T11:34:00.000-05:002008-08-15T11:34:00.000-05:00Good list!JRB-It isn't just National Labs that get...Good list!<BR/><BR/>JRB-<BR/><BR/>It isn't just National Labs that get the disrespect. I did a postdoc at a national lab, now I teach at a primarily undergraduate institution (PUI), and I got a bunch of crap over that decision. Well, you know, some of us like doing research a lot, we just don't want our main job responsibility to be getting grants for graduate student salaries. One can be ambitious and aim for big achievements but not want to live or die by how much grant money we pull down, especially in the current funding climate.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, it's easier to say this when I'm a theorist (fewer equipment costs) but still. I work with good students, I'm getting a lot of research done this summer (3 papers, maybe 4, when all is said and done) and I write grants, but I have fewer worries overall.<BR/><BR/>And I'm probably training your next generation of graduate students. So I wish people would show more respect for us PUI faculty. Yes, we get certain preferences on certain grants, but those grants sometimes come with conditions that are well-intentioned but don't accurately reflect the realities of our work.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Alex<BR/>(formerly commenting as "Assistant Professor of Physics at a PUI")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-77481849709271928742008-08-15T11:19:00.000-05:002008-08-15T11:19:00.000-05:00I would like to add a corollary to #5: Just becaus...I would like to add a corollary to #5: Just because you have a fellowship, does not mean you are "free". Doing research costs money other than your salary.<BR/><BR/>During my grad school, post-doc and now faculty experience, I have interacted with several grad students with fellowships who seemed to operate under the delusion that just because they had a fellowship they could do whatever they wanted - because they were free. Yes, I agree, I don't have to pay their stipend/tuition. But there are additional costs to research, at least in my field including but not limited to cleanroom fees, equipment fees, conference fees, materials/supplies fees, etc. These, on average, are 50-100k per year, assuming that no equipment needs to be purchased. Then it can be much, much more. <BR/><BR/>So, while the tuition/stipend part is taken care of, a student is still very, very expensive. And this "entitled" attitude is off-putting - to everyone involved.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'm just exceptionally bitter right now because I had a meeting yesterday with one such student who doesn't seem to understand said responsibility to the funding agency paying these fees - because he thinks he is only responsible to his fellowship agency!AsstFemaleProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07470039357270029522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-51992673129477491722008-08-15T10:40:00.000-05:002008-08-15T10:40:00.000-05:00Nice compilation.I'll add:Don't brag about how muc...Nice compilation.<BR/><BR/>I'll add:<BR/><BR/>Don't brag about how much you neglect your family for the sake of work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-71237771977446801922008-08-15T10:12:00.000-05:002008-08-15T10:12:00.000-05:0022. Don’t boast about firing students. It is unsee...22. Don’t boast about firing students. It is unseemly. You can of course talk about it, but don’t use these incidents to establish your hard-core credentials.<BR/><BR/>Wow thats horrible! I can't imagine someone getting off on killing the dreams of young aspiring scientists. I suppose if the student in question is one of those students whose a student only because they don't want to go into the real world. But bragging about firing a student that works hard but maybe just isn't good enough is just deplorable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-2627152064129280422008-08-15T10:06:00.000-05:002008-08-15T10:06:00.000-05:00About point 5: What if you're paid a salary for 20...About point 5: What if you're paid a salary for 20 hours a week and the work asks for 60 hours a week?<BR/><BR/>(It's purely rhetorical, of course: do you want this PhD yes or no?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-16993490853389527882008-08-15T09:54:00.000-05:002008-08-15T09:54:00.000-05:00This should be posted up in every university depar...This should be posted up in every university department and people made to read it. I especially like point 12, if only referees would follow that advice...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-43952286458828528242008-08-15T09:07:00.000-05:002008-08-15T09:07:00.000-05:00These are all excellent and useful points, but I e...These are all excellent and useful points, but I especially want to second #21 "Don’t assume that someone lacks ambition just because they don’t want to be a professor at a big research university."<BR/><BR/>I have met many professors who seem to feel that choosing to do research at a National Lab is less important than being a professor. It's jerks like them that make people like me run away from acedemia as fast a possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-16064917492979159212008-08-15T08:47:00.000-05:002008-08-15T08:47:00.000-05:00Haha. I like number 9. Talk about trying to screw ...Haha. I like number 9. Talk about trying to screw with someone's head.Candid Engineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01722793931639972423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-23925105991620821742008-08-15T08:08:00.000-05:002008-08-15T08:08:00.000-05:00I think this is a useful compilation and many peop...I think this is a useful compilation and many people should read it!<BR/>Thanksstepwise girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12937763179569166676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-56953124578919964722008-08-15T06:54:00.000-05:002008-08-15T06:54:00.000-05:0026. Don't stare at people's genitalia. If you are ...26. Don't stare at people's genitalia.<BR/> If you are addicted to sex, please get help with your addiction. It negatively affects everyone around you whether you think so or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-37453134618963872612008-08-15T06:35:00.000-05:002008-08-15T06:35:00.000-05:00Is a book in the offing?Is a book in the offing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com