tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post8389898902950852234..comments2024-03-25T02:33:41.590-05:00Comments on FemaleScienceProfessor: "In Science, It Matters That Women Come Last"Female Science Professorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-48126081513334174732014-09-07T20:22:44.972-05:002014-09-07T20:22:44.972-05:00Anon @11:36, it's interesting that your male c...Anon @11:36, it's interesting that your male colleague chose a younger male colleague to collaborate with over you. I've also had this happen, and it's puzzled me.<br /><br />In contrast to Anon@10:17, I've had wonderful collaborations with women. Male colleagues less so.Female Computer Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16445505185253882833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-57902423623953263352014-09-01T03:02:32.946-05:002014-09-01T03:02:32.946-05:00I am a mid-career scientist, Associate Prof level....I am a mid-career scientist, Associate Prof level. I definitely tend to collaborate with women more than men, and I think the reason was stated above. I want to work with people that I can trust, and who will treat me with respect - and those tend to be women. All of the people that have treated me really badly within my department were men ( very self-centered, and egoistic men at that). So there is a tendency to avoid, as a self-defense mechanism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-77807574356590096602014-08-16T22:17:11.992-05:002014-08-16T22:17:11.992-05:00While I've certainly experienced a lot of disc...While I've certainly experienced a lot of discrimination and harassment from male colleagues, most of the few female ones have been very vicious and judgmental. I have a good set now that is mostly male. <br /><br />I did read the article and was fascinated though. I suspect at a place with more than just a handful of women, I would have more female coauthors. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-35275524198767615422014-08-14T15:36:48.841-05:002014-08-14T15:36:48.841-05:00ug, trolls...
I have formed close friendships wit...ug, trolls...<br /><br />I have formed close friendships with a few other women who are career-peers, which have probably contributed to prolonging our research collaboration relationships. I have similar relationships with male friend/colleagues (is there a portmanteau for that? palaborators?)<br />but I think I have long-term collaborations with more women than my male collaborators do. Obviously these relationships are quite personal and social compatibility is a huge factor in collaborator choice. christiehttp://eps.mcgill.ca/~crowenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-3380137413463712352014-08-13T09:20:18.712-05:002014-08-13T09:20:18.712-05:00Philip - ?? what do you mean? Men already work tog...Philip - ?? what do you mean? Men already work together. That is one of the reasons why women must work together. We get pushed out of male dominated groups. Sometimes by outright blatant sexism, but usually through subtle ways that we are ignored, talked over, and otherwise pushed to the side. Usually, I think the men are not doing this consciously, (at least some are not), but this is how the world is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-47458195607464611192014-08-12T12:07:25.702-05:002014-08-12T12:07:25.702-05:00What do you think this particular result (that ...<i>What do you think this particular result (that 'women tend to work together') means, either for you or in your particular sub/field?</i><br /><br />If it were "men tend to work together", people would be screaming for the death of the patriarchy.<br />Phillip Helbighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12067585245603436809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-57410445449629734332014-08-11T11:36:42.381-05:002014-08-11T11:36:42.381-05:00Wow. I didn't feel painted like a victim at a...Wow. I didn't feel painted like a victim at all...<br /><br />As for the actual question, as a student I had a male and a female advisor, as a post-doc only a male advisor, so I can't draw much from that. My lab as a PI is definitely enriched for women - this is hard for me to decide if it's because I'm a woman or because I have a focus in ovarian cancer, which may be of greater interest to women more than men (or not). I can say that for collaboration, I have found it difficult to collaborate with older men - had one tell me it was because he didn't work with junior people until they were established (fine), then he turned around and wrote a major grant with a man more junior than me (in years, funding, and publications). So, I can't say if it's me or my gender, but I have found collaborating with women to be more positive. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-945616773910334482014-08-11T10:48:51.845-05:002014-08-11T10:48:51.845-05:00Early in my career, my female co-authors were my s...Early in my career, my female co-authors were my students. Now, like you, I have co-PIs who are female in addition to my students.<br /><br />I think the biggest reason is that I choose to work with people I can trust, who will treat me with respect, and these people tend to be women. This job is difficult enough to not have to deal with bullies, and ego maniacs. I just want to answer the scientific questions and I want to work with people who have similar desires, and I find that the easiest people to work with - except for a few damaged individuals - are other women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-13545577430209440682014-08-11T10:42:46.958-05:002014-08-11T10:42:46.958-05:00Dr. Farrell's reality is substantially differe...Dr. Farrell's reality is substantially different from the reality the rest of us live in.Walt Lessunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06543175448330140638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-9362153950635801832014-08-11T00:56:55.277-05:002014-08-11T00:56:55.277-05:00If you read the book "The myth of male power&...If you read the book "The myth of male power" by dr. Warren Farrell, you will discover that reality is very different from your feminist ideology that brings you to paint women as victims.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com