tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post2764242149491227019..comments2024-03-25T02:33:41.590-05:00Comments on FemaleScienceProfessor: Night at the LibraryFemale Science Professorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-16701713776519511472009-10-24T10:28:54.932-05:002009-10-24T10:28:54.932-05:00My school is trying to brainwash me into thinking ...My school is trying to brainwash me into thinking that the ozone layer depletion was being caused by refrigerators and spray cans. My mother told me that ozone layer depletion has been happening all throughout the solar system. Who's right? My mom or my school?Juliet McNoobernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-63718024760447626572009-10-17T13:56:36.421-05:002009-10-17T13:56:36.421-05:00My community college library does double duty as t...My community college library does double duty as the local public library. It is also a convenient pass-through from the largest parking lot to the school building for cold weather. I love books and the library, so I would be there at some point anyway, but I noticed what you did: lots of students actually using the library. (I also appreciate seeing kids, parents, and older folks there.) <br /><br />Conversely, I am in an Intro to Mass Media class and there is one person other than me who does personal reading before class starts. In our group project, my teammates barely knew how to judge a quality reference from a bad one, how to identify that they were quoting an item in making an argument, and how to cite that item. It was quite depressing.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15325195365190586576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-42517769964357713682009-10-16T22:09:57.441-05:002009-10-16T22:09:57.441-05:00"That's a really terrible set of hours, K...<i>"That's a really terrible set of hours, Kevin"</i><br /><br />Yes the hours are terrible, but in defense of the librarians, they had been keeping careful track of usage for the past few years, and they did cover the hours that got the most usage. Our campus is particularly dead on Saturdays, despite having a large fraction of the undergrads in dorms. I think they all go downtown to party instead of studying on Saturday. Fewer than 10% of our students are grad students, so we don't get the good example from them. The students who are working on Saturdays are the scientists and engineers, who rarely go to the library.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14528751349030084532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-2247349511726513232009-10-15T21:56:33.213-05:002009-10-15T21:56:33.213-05:00I guess I'm sort of old school because I vastl...I guess I'm sort of old school because I vastly prefer to have a book in my hand to reading on the computer. It seems to be easier on my eyes or maybe it's some sort of sensory preference. <br /><br />I have, however, gotten lazy because I don't rummage around the library to find my books. I use the library's awesome online tools to find the books I'm looking for and then have them reserved. Then all I have to do is walk over to the library and ask for the book at the front desk. Admittedly, I probably have missed a couple very cool books because of my lack of browsing, but it has saved me immense amounts of time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-25615490317530853852009-10-15T18:20:00.261-05:002009-10-15T18:20:00.261-05:00Our CC library has a number of convenient rooms fo...Our CC library has a number of convenient rooms for study groups that get used heavily, and was renovated to create an entire book-free section (hence outside the secure and reduced noise area of the library proper) specifically for computer use and study group discussions. It is even managing to acquire 21st century books despite some lean budget years.Doctor Pionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12513786840852469648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-26993522604371153922009-10-15T16:19:56.580-05:002009-10-15T16:19:56.580-05:00I'm amazed that you wondered whether there wou...I'm amazed that you wondered whether there would be 21st century books in the library! Did you think the library might have just decided to stop buying books?Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-39711538905366602362009-10-15T16:08:09.570-05:002009-10-15T16:08:09.570-05:00I'm not sure how to find our library. I haven...I'm not sure how to find our library. I haven't looked for it in the 3 years I've been at my current university.John Vidalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09871768524749705799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-79182295682809216052009-10-15T13:12:50.528-05:002009-10-15T13:12:50.528-05:00I had one class in college which required reading ...I had one class in college which required reading some books kept on reserve in the Rare Books Room at the University Library. I absolutely loved having a reason to spend time there, perusing books with actual physical pages, relaxing in the comfortable arm chairs, and enjoying the general Hogwarts-ish ambiance of the room. Here's to books and the libraries that house them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-61941653263481163982009-10-15T12:02:01.816-05:002009-10-15T12:02:01.816-05:00That's a really terrible set of hours, Kevin :...That's a really terrible set of hours, Kevin :( Your library is apparently closed at any time that anyone might actually want to use it, judging from population patterns at my school's library (it's 24 hours Sun-Thurs and open till 10pm on Fri and Sat, and it seems to get most crowded right around 11pm-3am most nights).quasarpulsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08762550806982089851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-24781798938693879382009-10-15T11:36:56.244-05:002009-10-15T11:36:56.244-05:00Here, for the reasons Kevin cites, our library is ...Here, for the reasons Kevin cites, our library is open 8-4:30 Mo9nday through Friday. Luckily, students' expectations are quite low: they come from high schools which long ago eliminated their school media specialists positions and their public library experience was less than stellar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-49959224173125528802009-10-15T11:24:18.262-05:002009-10-15T11:24:18.262-05:00Yay library!
It's the best place to study. W...Yay library!<br /><br />It's the best place to study. When I really had to crank it in terms of studying back in undergrad that's where I would go. I still go from time to time to take in the quiet ambiance of searching through the stacks (though at the moment I'm in a data gathering stage of my dissertation so I have less time for this sort of thing).<br /><br />I'm not sure why your library only seems ot have old books. The Univ. library I frequent most has very up to date books... though I have to admit I am usually looking for books related to a relatively "new" science so that could be part of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-82394849163887496112009-10-15T11:08:13.358-05:002009-10-15T11:08:13.358-05:00"I was told I should spare one of my lectures...<i>"I was told I should spare one of my lectures to send the students for library orientation..."</i><br /><br />For many years, I have gone with my students in a senior/1st-year grad class to the library for an information session tailored to the class. The librarian does an excellent job of showing advanced search tricks in medline and biosis, new databases the library has acquired, ways to download citations, how to access library-subscribed journals from home, impact factors of journals, ... Things change at the library, so I learn something new each year. She has also started incorporating a discussion of the changing field for publication: astronomically growing library subscription prices, open-access journals, the advantages and disadvantages of the subscriber-pays versus author-pays publication models, ...<br /><br />The class is well worth giving up one 70-minute lecture.<br /><br />Talk with your librarians---they may be a greatly under-used resource at your institution.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14528751349030084532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-40863387294445972602009-10-15T10:49:15.175-05:002009-10-15T10:49:15.175-05:00I go to the university library to write whenever I...I go to the university library to write whenever I feel like I'm stuck or I can't focus. The studious, contemplative atmosphere helps me get past whatever's bothering me and put some words down on the page. <br /><br />I never did this as an undergrad--only as a grad student, and now as a postdoc. I don't think I set foot in my undergrad library, probably because I was never required to do any serious amount of writing.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09387721708068537429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-6357132116143529032009-10-15T07:27:50.865-05:002009-10-15T07:27:50.865-05:00You are lucky to have a library open on Friday nig...You are lucky to have a library open on Friday nights. Here the budget cutbacks have resulted in sharply reduced hours at the library:<br />Sunday-Thursday 10am-10pm<br />Friday 10am-5pm<br />Saturday CLOSEDKevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14528751349030084532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-45821606823896042662009-10-15T07:08:08.488-05:002009-10-15T07:08:08.488-05:00Where I come from, a lot of people go to libraries...Where I come from, a lot of people go to libraries to study, both at the university and at the public libraries. I have always assumed it is because leaving their home/office and their desktop computer to go to The Place Where We Read makes it easier to focus on actually reading / making notes / writing, instead of a million other things. <br /><br />I've tried it a couple of times and it seems to work.Jankahttp://www.iki.fi/janka/log/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-12537331523242029922009-10-15T07:02:39.825-05:002009-10-15T07:02:39.825-05:00for me a trip to the library seriously is a welcom...for me a trip to the library seriously is a welcome break from the computer screen and/or my office! i actually appreciate when i can't find an article online once in a while. fortunately/unfortunately, my college has its own earth and mineral sciences library within our building so i don't get to actually go OUTSIDE and trek to the university library all that often. :(Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08974119137861459963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-90093590322250453842009-10-15T06:24:25.656-05:002009-10-15T06:24:25.656-05:00Last semester I didn't have a single student c...Last semester I didn't have a single student complain about anything. <br /><br />The class also lacked a personality. I think I prefer it when students are engaged enough to comment/discuss more, even if it means more whiners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-46407626726905765892009-10-15T02:10:27.244-05:002009-10-15T02:10:27.244-05:00Huh! Has there been a change in the environment a...Huh! Has there been a change in the environment at your campus library? I know when my old college renovated its 1970s era, rather decrepit structure and added comfortable chairs and a coffee shop, it was suddenly a favored place to study, while previously it was considered musty and uncomfortable, and to be avoided at all costs. It's amazing what an improved atmosphere will do. <br /><br />Otherwise, it may be that you've found the right mix of materials for this crop of students. I know I personally prefer to keep my lazy butt in my computer chair when doing readings, rather than running around getting materials, but if it's something I'm going to have to use for more than one assignment, I'm more likely to feel the (admittedly minor) effort is worth it. My impression from my fellow grad students is that we don't care what format we have to read (some people will still print out their .pdfs and such, while others happily glue their eyes to a screen) as long as the process of accessing the information isn't too long or complex. I'm less likely to go get a reading at the library if it's all the way across campus and it's snowing, for instance, than if it's just a few blocks away and sunny. I'm also likely to give up on finding an article if the internet is being particularly slow, or the portal to access the document is one of those nastily difficult to navigate ones.Quill2006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-50992089602922726972009-10-15T01:18:10.856-05:002009-10-15T01:18:10.856-05:00I'm not sure. I just transferred to a new scho...I'm not sure. I just transferred to a new school where the library is actually open when students are not in class, so I figured that some of the difference I observed from my previous experience (both recently and a decade ago at my first institution) might have been due to institutional culture, but our library here looks and sounds very much like you describe. It's actually rather difficult to find anywhere to sit and work at any time other than about 6 a.m. on a Tuesday.<br /><br />My professors haven't been requiring library reading - nearly every class I'm taking preferentially references either very recent research (some coming out of labs at this school as we speak) or the ancient clay tablets of Ye Olde Sacred Physics Formulae distilled neatly into textbook form. However, I'd be rather surprised if students here voiced any sort of objection to a required library visit (in fact, I'd be surprised if they objected to any request by a professor not involving violence and mayhem. But that, I'm fairly sure, is an institutional culture phenomenon.)quasarpulsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08762550806982089851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-45156831603870180152009-10-15T01:09:30.320-05:002009-10-15T01:09:30.320-05:00Unfortunately, at the school I taught last year, t...Unfortunately, at the school I taught last year, the students did not know how to use the library and when I told them to ask the reference librarian and help desk, I was told that the help desk is manned by student workers who themselves did not know how to use the library. When I approached the librarian about this, I was told I should spare one of my lectures to send the students for library orientation (the same spare your lecture time routine came from the writing center on campus too). So much for small mid-western state schools!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com