tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post6026495999698555505..comments2024-03-25T02:33:41.590-05:00Comments on FemaleScienceProfessor: Nobody'd take me seriously anywayFemale Science Professorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-11898923886752754612012-05-18T12:56:38.111-05:002012-05-18T12:56:38.111-05:00Thanks for the comment. I won't forget - that&...Thanks for the comment. I won't forget - that's a whole lot.Female Science Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-37218416152184077332012-05-18T12:47:38.374-05:002012-05-18T12:47:38.374-05:00Hey, we got you; that's all that we want....ok...Hey, we got you; that's all that we want....ok, it's a paraphrase. I love the Finns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-65192650905391261382012-05-18T11:46:50.454-05:002012-05-18T11:46:50.454-05:00I agree with Anonymous: ""fight against ...I agree with Anonymous: ""fight against institutional discrimination" is more depressing than hearing something like "I promise you that my administration will work tirelessly to ensure that women have equal opportunities.."", because the quote makes me feel tired (and I'm just starting a career!). Change in attitudes can come from the inside...but it would be really nice to have support from the 'outside'.<br />PS I realize my pseudonym is similar to yours, I hope it's taken as a sign of flattery! I really enjoy reading!Ms. Scientist, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10715267451503812587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-4157584141730154972012-05-17T18:30:45.409-05:002012-05-17T18:30:45.409-05:00Just pointing out, Split Enz morphed into the even...Just pointing out, Split Enz morphed into the even better named group Crowded House.<br /><br />Well loved and famous in NZ!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-76410165757623851402012-05-17T13:51:03.632-05:002012-05-17T13:51:03.632-05:00I found president's speech very inspiring, act...I found president's speech very inspiring, actually. Don't settle for participating -- *lead*. Wonderfully inspiring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-43377467653822554332012-05-15T20:47:08.530-05:002012-05-15T20:47:08.530-05:00I agree, of course, but it is shocking how few peo...I agree, of course, but it is shocking how few people are aware of them and their influence. Wikipedia mentions their success in NZ, Australia, Canada, but beyond that, they apparently only "built a cult following elsewhere".Female Science Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15288567883197987690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-87108225276452891992012-05-15T19:30:07.912-05:002012-05-15T19:30:07.912-05:00obscure band
WHATTT!? The band in question is far...<i>obscure band</i><br /><br />WHATTT!? The band in question is far from obscure, and played a pivotal role in the evolution of modern rock-and-roll.Comrade Physioprofhttp://freethoughtblogs.com/physioprofnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-57493980929871003722012-05-15T14:38:08.525-05:002012-05-15T14:38:08.525-05:00I know that President O meant well with his "...I know that President O meant well with his "fight" statement, but it didn't inspire me. I can agree with the general statement that everyone (men, women) need to work hard, fight for what they believe in, take on challenges etc., but "fight against institutional discrimination" is more depressing than hearing something like "I promise you that my administration will work tirelessly to ensure that women have equal opportunities..".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-13404862478409154182012-05-15T13:45:47.649-05:002012-05-15T13:45:47.649-05:00Among my fave Enz lyrics:
The worried look that’s...Among my fave Enz lyrics:<br /><br />The worried look that’s on your face makes you older.<br />You realize that things have never been better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-12178731845902925002012-05-15T12:43:13.469-05:002012-05-15T12:43:13.469-05:00"Step in my shoes, you'll see that I don&..."Step in my shoes, you'll see that I don't fit."<br />This is brilliant. <br /><br /><br />In reply to the question, yes, I sometimes do not speak up in conferences for fear of not taken seriously and for fear of being perceived as too aggressive, but this is actually the same thing. <br /><br />If I as a female postdoc say something slightly aggressive in a conference, I get these looks and reactions, as if I was just wanting to be mean and if it was not about the topic at hand. I have observed the same reaction to other women being a little aggressive. If a man says exactly the same thing, however, people like it and even laugh. <br /><br />I cannot describe how much this annoys me, since I myself like it if people ask me provokative question or if there is a lively discussion. <br /><br />I try as often as possible to speak up anyway, also if it has negative consequences in the short term. If we women are just quiet and nice as they apparently want us to be, things will never change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-10489711563230774752012-05-15T12:26:00.256-05:002012-05-15T12:26:00.256-05:00And let's not forget these immortal lyrics:
I...And let's not forget these immortal lyrics:<br /><br />I walk home<br />the wrong way<br />hoping I'll<br />go astray<br /><br />I feel that way sometimes, especially when "the fight" starts to get to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-2912523497872931732012-05-15T08:41:58.461-05:002012-05-15T08:41:58.461-05:00Agree and disagree with Optixmom. I have had some ...Agree and disagree with Optixmom. I have had some very important advocates in my career, at times because no one was taking me seriously but did take seriously the opinion of respected senior colleagues. Once you get a bit of assist from the "cavalry" (maybe that's what you mean by being invited to the table), then you need to step up and use your own voice. Some people don't get this help and have to fight more to be seen, heard, and respected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29059245.post-73106037724700565722012-05-15T07:19:27.943-05:002012-05-15T07:19:27.943-05:00You need to be your best advocate, because the rea...You need to be your best advocate, because the reality is that no one is going to do that for you (especially when you become an adult).<br /><br />There are many upper level positions that you cannot "fight" for in business, etc. One has to market themselves to the powers that be in a way that you get put on their short list whenever they are considering a slate of candidates, appointed positions, career advancements, etc. Whether that marketing is publishing on your research, participating in meetings and on technical committees, etc.<br /><br />President Obama can say all of the encouraging words he wishes to our desired voting block, but his reality is that whenever there is a need for a serious review committee (ex. the debt ceiling) he doesn't go out of his way to choose women. He does what is easy and picks men. When women point out this all too common practice, we are cast as "whiny" or "crazy" or "petty".<br /><br />My best advice for young women is to network early in their careers and get your name recognized for excellence. Market yourself to those whom you admire, who you wish to collaborate with, or who may be able to expand your network. For women in high career ranks, nominate other women for positions of authority. Share your secrets to success so that other women can follow your path.<br /><br />If you have to fight every time you wish to get a seat at the table [of men] you may find that they have relegated your seat to the back corner, on a rickety stool, next to the guy who smells, and will only let your presence be made public when the press is there. Being invited to the table is a much preferred option.Optixmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00777379336330312818noreply@blogger.com